I have been wondering this for a long time and completely forgot to ask until now. I am DYING to know....

The entirety of my meth career up until about 2003 or 2004 was all what people call "mexican dope" which all the older stimulant abusers remember as that dank yellow shit (or occasionally Fed Red phosphurus dope). It was either that or Anie what we midwest tweekers prefered which was the white shit made with anhydrous. Anyway...

I still remember the day I was driving back to Des Moines, IA from seeing Bad Boy Bill in Minneapolis and my meth connect called me and said he ahold of some "ice". I had always heard of crystal meth but never ever seen it. Ever since that day that is all I have seen. Literally. Never ever again did I see any yellow "mexican dope". My question is, does anyone know what happened? I have never in the drug community seen such a drastic IMMEDIATE change like that which leads me to believe that something very significant must have happened.

I know Terrance McKenna has an opinion on it but Im interested to hear if anyone else had noticed this.

Methamphetamine is methamphetamine, and all methamphetamine affects the brain exactly the same way if given via the same route of administration.

I'm interested to know why the form of meth I was seeing changed from anhydrous and the yellow stuff to crystal. It changed overnight.

Probably demand. All methamphetamine HCl can be made into "crystal" form, regardless of the synthesis route used to produce it. As methamphetamine became cheaper and more common, the more "discriminating" meth buyers probably wanted a more pure (and thus potent) product.

seriously.. i remember that shit too.
prices also went up with the change.

prices went up, quality went down.

it was a very drastic change, but every once in a while, ill still come across some good ol yellow shit.
where im from, picsas got the white boy dope, and white boys got the picsa dope.
white boy dope is good.

Isn't that crazy. To me it seems like a distant memory. I almost forgot about it. Don't get me wrong I've had some really really strong crystal BUT I still remember the feel and the taste, oh the taste, of shooting up 100 units of the good yellow shit.

I imagine in Cali still has some yellow shit coming up from the south.

im glad im moving back then! lol
it does seem so long ago, but its only been about a year and a half.. at the most.

you could taste it when you shoot it up?

but yeah, the taste!
everyone use to say they hated the taste, i said yummy.

So? It's still a valid question...

Personally, I was never into Meth, I had a bad taste in my mouth for it. My bio-mom was a Meth addict so I always associated her shittyness to the drug. (She was an awful mom, she dumped me off with my Grandparents, never came around, abused me whenever I lived with her for more than a week, the whole shebang.)

Ironically, the first drug I ever did was a line if the yellow shit you guys are talking about. (see the exp. forums in about an hour, I've been meaning to post about that anyway)

I was 14 & the person who gave it to me affirmed my fears that my Mom was on Meth. I hated the thought of it, but as I got older I had a few experiences with it. I remember the Red stuff, I remember the white stuff & I definitely remember when Crystal hit the scene. (See exp forums.)

In my area (the semi-rural Southeastern USA) all forms were still being sold as of about 2003, as far as I know it's all still around. In my area, people don't want anything but Ice now, because most of the people where I live don't care about the drug itself, but the stigma that goes with it.

They only care about feeling cool & doing something bad, even the adults. The idea of doing Ice seems more appealing that the idea of doing Crank, which now seems passé. Like I've said, I live in the middle on a really weird place. To answer your question, IDK, but I definitely think it's valid. I'm curious to see what people have to say about it...

The red stuff you are referring to is made from phosphorus. It is pretty potent but especially nasty. I remember hacking up nasty red shit for days. Yuck!

Meth is deff not Meth by any stretch of the imagination.

Old school red is a monster in its self. In fact a well cooked .5 (half gram) of Red Phos dope could keep a person up for days on end. Causes more intence holucinations, paronoia (spelling not my strong suit) and longer lasting effect. Not to mention health effects from poorly washed dope or crappy cooks..this stuff is evil!

Ice, Shard, Cold is a way different high than old school red. Not even close in intensity or other side effects.

Let me asure ya that it aint all the same. Thats kind alike saying all rolls are the same or weed is weed. I have stayed up for a month (1 hour sleep or less a day) on old school red. The most I could do one Ice is 3 days maybe a week.

I stay up for 20 days twice on coke. I could stay up for a year on dope if I had too. But yeah, phos dope is some nasty nasty shit.