Hey there,

I am not sure if its ok, but i wanted to post what happened just this past weekend on halloween so that people can learn from it.

We had been waiting for the 31st for so long that i couldnt believe it when it was finally here. Me and some friends always roll together here and there through out the year and we always have a lot of fun and we are safe and try to take every step we can to make sure we are going to have a good time.

This time we tried using 5-HTP and Ginko Bilabo to enhance our roll. We took 200 miligrams of each an hour before our roll and an hour after. The night had been going really well. It wasnt until about 3 am when we had taken our third and final roll that i noticed my girlfriend complained of a stomach ache. I asked her if she had been drinking enough water and if she liked to sit outside in case she was over heating. After being outside for a half hour she said she felt better but thought she might throw up so i let her go to the bathroom. She was in there for about 5 minutes when i went to check on her. She was mumbling something to herself but i couldnt make what it was and when i tried to talk to her she wouldnt answer.

By this time i had thought that she might have thrown up and lost precious liquid and needed to get more liquids back in her. I walked her outside and asked if she would like some water. By this time she was delrious and her mouth was shut tight and i literally had to force it open so she could breathe. I took her to the hospital fearing an oncoming over dose and they took care of her. She did have a seizure when they were flushing her out with an IV but had said that it was normal as the roll passed/ran its course.

After a few hours i took her home and let her get rest. She feels a lot better now and is thankful that she is in good health.

I just wanted to share as i found out that she might have taken more MDMA than her body could handle for that time period although she said she was coming down a lot and didnt feel like she was still on a roll. Also be careful when experimenting with 5-HTP and other vitamins.

If anyone can shed some light on the Do's and Dont's on my situation that would really be appreciated

Hi and welcome Personally I don't have a problem with sharing experiences as long as you're wanting to learn something from it or want feedback on something that happened.

The first thing that came to my mind was the thought of how sensitive her stomach usually is to supplements like 5-HTP and the Ginko Biloba. Sometimes I can't take vitamins and supplements because they just make me feel really nauseous. Also how many pills did you all take throughout your night? You say you all "had tried" using those to enhance your roll, so if that was the first time she'd used those that could very well be part of the problem; she just wasn't sure how her body would react.

Thumbs up on actually taking her to the hospital. Lots of times when something is wrong people are afraid to go for professional help because they don't want to get in trouble with the doctors or police. It's always good to have that strength of mind to listen to yourself and go for help if you think something is above your experience.

You say she had a seizure at the hospital and were told that was normal? I've never heard of that, had you? That's something I would definately have a question about.

Hope she's feeling better, and hope you have happy and safe times in the future

Interestingly, I was able to find this awfully similar trip report from a couple of years ago:

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=54058

With the current state of the US market for MDMA I wonder also how sure you are about the possible actual contents of the drugs she took. Piperazines and other stimulants are extremely prevalent in the "ecstasy" market.

My thoughts exactly. My first instincts are to question the legitimacy of the pills.

We had taken our first roll at 7:45 pm and taken 1 ginko blioba and 1 5-htp about 30 min before. Then after that another pill every 3 hours or so would be the best description of our timeline. We took 4 in total, our last around 3:15 AM. They were the poke ball stamped ones with the "DC" shoe symbol on the other end. I had heard good things but didnt test it personally. We did take another 3 ginko and 5-htp supplements through out the night as well. The over all mood was everyone was having a great roll and really feeling it. We did have a small stomach ache at first and again around 2 am but it seemed normal. It wasnt bad at all, very minor and it went away.

But for the girl that had to be taken to the hospital she was the only one that had another stomach ache before slipping into that state she ended up in.

I dont think she drank too much water, at least enough to get sick. I had bought a 6 pack of water bottles for the 4 of us and there was still 1 left. The room was not warm at all and we basically just danced for a little and just played video games and told stories.

I will say before she got that stomach ache she smoked a cig and said that made her sick.

Hope that helps


*Edit i had said three pills in original post we actually took 4 through out the night. They were double stacked as well. I believe ultimately she just took too much than her body could process and probably would not have happened if we didnt take the 4th one.

And thank you guys for the kind words. Going through that is something i hope no one ever has to go through but it can happen and you just have to be ready to accept all the risks involved. Everyone gets in trouble here and there... But life goes on and you can get over being in trouble. Life is more precious